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Abies veitchii

Christmastree · Veitch Fir · Veitch's Silver-fir

Family PinaceaeGenus Abies

Upright cones clustered at the top of a windswept branch, a finch perched among them
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About the plant

What it is and where it grows — not part of any germination protocol.

The plant

Habit
treePlants of the World Online
Habit
Coniferous, TreeNotes from web searches
Height
80-100 ft24-30 mNotes from web searches
Spread
25-35 ft8-11 mNotes from web searches
Native range
JapanGBIF Backbone Taxonomy
Note
Cool, wet, mountain climatesNotes from web searches

Growing conditions

Sun
Full sun to partial shadeNotes from web searches
Soil
Well-drained soilNotes from web searches
Soil pH
5-7Notes from web searches
Organic matter
HighNotes from web searches
Moisture
Even and consistent moistureNotes from web searches
Watering
Regular watering, especially during establishmentNotes from web searches

Toxicity is noted only where a source states it. No note here is not a finding of safety.

Sources: Plants of the World Online — Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew; Notes from web searches — Amir Abed; GBIF Backbone Taxonomy — Global Biodiversity Information Facility.

Worth knowing

  • Veitch's fir is named after John Gould Veitch, who saw it on Mount Fuji in 1860 and identified it for European botanists. It is very shade-tolerant when young, but not long-lived. Wikipedia: Abies veitchii

Two sources report 4 treatments between them. All are shown.

Protocol 1

DerivedN. C. Deno, 1998

Difficulty Moderate Rated by us, not by the source.

Start around December 15, 2026 for a May 3 last frost.

  1. Cold moist stratification

    Duration: 90 daysTemperature: 40°F 4°C

  2. Warm moist stratification

    Duration: 90 daysTemperature: 70°F 21°C

about 3 months from start to step 2. Germination happens during step 2; time not stated, 21 days assumed.

55% germination.

Seed Germination Theory and Practice, 2nd Supplement — N. C. Deno, 1998 · 2nd Supplement, Abies p. 10Public domain
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Abies (Pinaceae). Grateful acknowledgement is made to Schumacher Seed Company of MA for a gift of fifteen species of this genus. All fifteen germ. at 70D albeit somewhat slowly with germination taking place in 5-10 weeks. Some gave slightly greater percent germination with light or in a 40-70D pattern, but, GA-3, OS, or OT had no significant effects. Some germ. at 40. A significant number of the seeds rotted indicating ,that they were dead.'but there was no simple way of detecting such seeds from outward appearance nor of separating them. The seeds of all .fifteen species were largely viable and producing healthy seedlings. SUMMARY OF RESULTS ON FIFTEEN SPECIES OF ABIES Species ' Germination in 70D 40-70D Results ((cc)) Percent Time A. veitchii 70% 5-7 weeks 40-70(55%) 5% (a) This result is for seeds placed in light at 70 for six weeks followed by shifting to dark at 70. Most curiously the seeds placed directly in dark at 70 all rotted. (b) This result is for seeds placed in light at 70. Germination in the dark at 7
Seed Germination Theory and Practice, 2nd Supplement, 2nd Supplement, Abies p. 10. Quoted exactly. Every value on this card comes from this record, except the difficulty rating, which is ours; the step names come from a fixed list.

Protocol 2

DerivedN. C. Deno, 1993

Difficulty High Rated by us, not by the source.

Start around March 22, 2027 for a May 3 last frost.

  1. Sow and cover

    Temperature: 70°F 21°C Light: dark

No stated waiting before sowing. Then 14 days to germinate.

15% germination in 14 days.

Light made no difference and neither did a five-minute detergent wash.

Seed Germination Theory and Practice, 2nd ed. — N. C. Deno, 1993 · Ch. 20, Abies p. 82Public domain
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Abies (Pinaceae). A. veitchii germ. 70D(15% in 2nd w) and 40-70D(3%). Light had no effect, and a five minute wash with detergent had no effect. Seeds rotted if treated with GA-3.
Seed Germination Theory and Practice, 2nd ed., Ch. 20, Abies p. 82. Quoted exactly. Every value on this card comes from this record, except the difficulty rating, which is ours; the step names come from a fixed list.

Protocol 3

DerivedN. C. Deno, 1993

Difficulty Very high Rated by us, not by the source.

Start around December 15, 2026 for a May 3 last frost.

  1. Cold moist stratification

    Duration: 90 daysTemperature: 40°F 4°C

  2. Warm moist stratification

    Duration: 90 daysTemperature: 70°F 21°C Light: dark

about 3 months from start to step 2. Germination happens during step 2; time not stated, 21 days assumed.

3% germination.

Seed Germination Theory and Practice, 2nd ed. — N. C. Deno, 1993 · Ch. 20, Abies p. 82Public domain
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Abies (Pinaceae). A. veitchii germ. 70D(15% in 2nd w) and 40-70D(3%).
Seed Germination Theory and Practice, 2nd ed., Ch. 20, Abies p. 82. Quoted exactly. Every value on this card comes from this record, except the difficulty rating, which is ours; the step names come from a fixed list.

Protocol 4

DerivedN. C. Deno, 1993

  1. Gibberellic acid soak

  2. Sow and cover

    Temperature: 70°F 21°C Light: dark

No stated waiting before sowing.

0% germination.

The seeds rotted.

Seed Germination Theory and Practice, 2nd ed. — N. C. Deno, 1993 · Ch. 20, Abies p. 82Public domain
Show the original text
A. veitchii germ. 70D(15% in 2nd w) and 40-70D(3%). Light had no effect, and a five minute wash with detergent had no effect. Seeds rotted if treated with GA-3.
Seed Germination Theory and Practice, 2nd ed., Ch. 20, Abies p. 82. Quoted exactly. Every value on this card comes from this record; the step names come from a fixed list.

How each step is done, in Deno’s words, and what Verified and Derived mean.

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